From danger@tomas.elvandar.org Mon Mar 13 21:00:28 2006 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF24D16A401 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:00:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danger@tomas.elvandar.org) Received: from tomas.elvandar.org (tomas.elvandar.org [217.148.169.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D6543D55 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:00:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danger@tomas.elvandar.org) Received: by tomas.elvandar.org (Postfix, from userid 1002) id E7C83483FB8; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: <20060313210026.E7C83483FB8@tomas.elvandar.org> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:00:26 +0000 (UTC) From: Daniel Gerzo Reply-To: Daniel Gerzo To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: [patch] XML'ified release todo list X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: >Number: 94423 >Category: www >Synopsis: [patch] XML'ified release todo list >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: danger >State: suspended >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Mar 13 21:01:05 GMT 2006 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: Mon Jul 26 11:42:27 UTC 2010 >Originator: Daniel Gerzo >Release: FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE i386 >Organization: rulez.sk >Environment: System: FreeBSD tomas.elvandar.org 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Wed Feb 15 02:22:30 CET 2006 root@redqueen.elvandar.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/REDQUEEN i386 >Description: I'm submitting this PR because I don't want my work to get lost and since I've spent a few hours working on this and the work is finished, it would be really nice to see it commited sometime in future. Please, see this thread: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-doc/2006-February/009667.html The patch has been updated against the latest todo list. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- todo.diff begins here --- diff -ruN 6.1R/Makefile 6.1R.new/Makefile --- 6.1R/Makefile Sun Feb 12 15:36:17 2006 +++ 6.1R.new/Makefile Mon Mar 13 20:45:43 2006 @@ -7,19 +7,21 @@ .include "../Makefile.inc" .endif -DOCS= todo.sgml approvals.sgml -DOCS+= schedule.sgml +DOCS= approvals.sgml schedule.sgml + +SRCS.DEFAULT= todo.xsl +XMLDOCS= todo FETCHFILE= http://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/news.rdf FETCHCMD= /usr/bin/fetch -CLEANFILES+= news.rdf stress.html +CLEANFILES+= news.rdf stress.xml news.rdf: ${FETCHCMD} ${FETCHFILE} -stress.html: news.rdf stress.xsl - ${XSLTPROC} stress.xsl news.rdf > stress.html +stress.xml: news.rdf stress.xsl + ${XSLTPROC} stress.xsl news.rdf > stress.xml -todo.html: stress.html +todo.html: stress.xml .include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" diff -ruN 6.1R/stress.xsl 6.1R.new/stress.xsl --- 6.1R/stress.xsl Wed Jan 25 23:58:36 2006 +++ 6.1R.new/stress.xsl Sun Jan 29 13:36:47 2006 @@ -7,25 +7,22 @@ version="1.0"> + method="xml" + indent="yes" + encoding="utf-8" + omit-xml-declaration="no"/> - Generated from XSLT -
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unreliable serial console&status.unknown;At the manual 'root mount' prompt, the serial console is very - unreliable and drops most characters.
i386 deadlocks with >16GB swap&status.deferred;&a.alc;i386 deadlocks if more than 16GB of swap is in use. - Increasing the kern.maxswzone tunable would be a workaround - this. Although a patch from &a.alc; is needed to allow this variable to - be increased, this is not suitable for 6.1R. This limitation should - be documented in the Release Notes.
unmount pending error&status.wip;&a.ssouhlal;When unmounting filesystems &a.kris; reports seeing this warning: /c: unmount pending error: blocks -68512 files 0. This dates back at least to 5.3. It might be associated with -filesystem corruption reported by many users in which the 'used' space -on a filesystem is negative; fsck -f is needed to correct this.
swap_pager warnings&status.unknown;&a.truckman;?When swapfiles are in use, there are often warnings printed: -swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 889347, size: 8192. There is also the possibility of deadlock.
umount -f panics&status.wip;&a.jeff;, &a.ssouhlal;panics from race conditions. - A patch from &a.jeff; seems to fix some of them.
quota deadlocks&status.wip;&a.jeff;Quota support is not locked properly and causes deadlocks. - A patch from &a.jeff; seems to fix some of them.
UFS deadlocks on amd64&status.unknown;&a.tegge;Seen by &a.kris;.
UFS deadlocks&status.unknown;Seen by Peter Jeremy.
sparc64 instability&status.unknown;&a.marius;sparc64 instability when accessing /dev/mem. Contact - &a.marius; or &a.kris; for debugging information.
sparc64 frequent hangs&status.unknown;no DDB break possible, so impossible to diagnose
serious sparc64 IPv6 panic&status.wip;&a.gnn;Triggered by just ping6'ing the box. It may even be a MI - issue, the reporter of this bug only uses IPv6 with - sparc64. This problem seems to be triggered even when debug.mpsafenet=0.
sort(1) does not work with some locales&status.new; sort(1) can cause a coredump with some locales. - See also gnu/93629.
exec_map depletion&status.wip;&a.ups;The exec_map is regularly running out of space - on machines running 7.0. &a.ups; has a proposed - patch and it seems to fix this problem.
NFS data corruption between two 7.0 machines&status.wip;&a.mohans;Running fsx between a 7.0 NFS client and server - detects data corruption. This problem can also be reproduced - by using 6.1 NFS server.
panic in fxp driver&status.wip;&a.andre;See http://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/cons186.html.
deadlock in vn_start_write() consumers&status.wip;&a.tegge;
panic in bpf&status.wip;&a.sam;killing tcpdump (e.g. with ^C) can cause panics in bpf.
devfs locking problem&status.wip;&a.jeff;It is trivial to deadlock it on an SMP system, and - there are other panics with device removal.
pty leak&status.wip;&a.cognet;Since 6.x has a hard-coded limit, once all ptys are - leaked things like ssh and login no longer work. - This seems devfs-related.
cpu_ipi_selected() can cause a trap on FreeBSD/sparc64&status.wip;&a.kmacy;On sparc64, cpu_ipi_selected() can cause a trap (which is bad since - it appears in the trap code path).
rpc.lockd interoperability problems&status.unknown;&a.kuriyama;After this commit - rpc.lockd seems to have interoperability problems. - This may be the cause of the many "rpc.lockd no longer interoperates" - bug reports seen on -stable.
dup(2) regression on 6.x&status.unknown;&a.des;Simple "close(0); dup(fd)" does not return descriptor "0" in some cases. - This problem has been reported in - kern/87208, - and there is a proposed patch in the PR, too.
ifconfig regression on 6.x&status.wip;&a.yar;ifconfig cannot handle vlan and mtu parameters at the same time - after rev.1.7.2.3 of sbin/ifconfig/ifvlan.c commit. - For more information and a proposed patch, see - bin/94028.
"calcru: runtime went backwards" problem for threaded program&status.unknown; stress2 thr1 test can trigger "calcru: runtime went backwards" problem - and there are also many similar reports on -stable and -current. - &a.phk; committed a possible fix (src/sys/kern/kern_tc.c rev.1.169) to - update the calibration code to be more precise on 2 March.
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SMP kernels for install&status.unknown;From the ideas - page. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for performance - reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and SMP kernel - into the release bits, and have sysinstall install both. It - should also select the correct one for the target system and - make that the default on boot. The easiest way to do this would - be to have sysinstall boot an SMP kernel and then look at the - hw.ncpu sysctl. The only problem is being able to have - sysinstall fall back to booting a UP kernel for itself if the - SMP one fails. This can probably be 'faked' by setting one of - the SMP-disabling variables in the loader. But in any case, the - point is to make the process Just Work for the user, without the - user needing to know arcane loader/sysctl knobs. SMP laptops are - here, and we should be ready to support SMP out-of-the-box.
swap panic on sparc64&status.unknown;&a.kris; has panic info&a.kris; reports configuring a 74GB swap-backed md on sparc64 that - caused a panic after a week or two of load (during which time - swap was slowly filling as more of the md was dirtied).
updated hal and ath drivers&status.new;&a.sam;
fix ntpdate(1) bogus output on amd64.&status.unknown;&a.roberto;
Improve performance&status.unknown;What seem to be 4BSD scheduler bugs in 6.0 that - cause performance to be anomalously low in certain situations. - &a.davidxu; has expressed some interest in this problem.
/dev/kmem panic&status.wip;&a.ups;&a.kris; has noticed panics on SMP machines when there was ABI - breakage of libkvm and world was not rebuilt and utilities like - fstat were used. This suggests panics can be caused by incorrect - accesses to /dev/kmem. &a.ups; committed a fix for i386.
KLDs on sparc64&status.new; On sparc64 machines with more than 4Gb memory KLDs are not usable - and will panic the system. The problem is reportedly with how the - KLDs are compiled, it only works if the code ends up below 4G.
Max RAM on sparc64&status.new; Maximum RAM on sparc64 appears to be limited to 16Gb.
make -jN&status.new; Doing 'make -jN', then suspending/resuming it may result in make - reporting it lost child process(es).
OpenBSM&status.unknown;&a.rwatson;The integration of OpenBSM is waiting on some final licensing hurdles. - Once those are cleared, it will be a very desirable feature for &local.rel;.
update sysinstall disk labeling&status.wip;&a.rodrigc;Sysinstall could use the same fixes recently made to fdisk so it - plays nice with GEOM and disk labeling. This does not cause problems - during install because nothing on the disk is mounted when its label - is being manipulated but it can cause problems if sysinstall gets - used on a live system to adjust labels on existing disks which - sys-admins tend to do.
swapping on 6.0 is slower than on 4.x&status.new; Performance on swap handling is much slower than 4.x and - this can make a system essentially unusable when moderate - paging activity is going on.
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manual root mount lockmgr panics&status.untested;&a.ssouhlal;Specifying a manual root mount location causes lockmgr panics. - &a.ssouhlal; has committed a patch for this.
dhclient causes ipv6 panics.&status.untested;&a.dougb;&a.dougb; has more details about this.
amd64 panics in ipv6 with date(1)&status.untested;&a.ume;amd64 panics in ipv6 when the date is changed using date(1) or - ntpdate(1). This may be a MI issue.
grep(1) -w does not work with multibyte locales&status.untested;&a.tjr;grep(1) -w generates wrong results with non-UTF-8 - multibyte locales. &a.tjr; has committed a patch - to -HEAD. See also gnu/91909.
Improve kbdmux&status.wip;&a.emax;From the ideas - page. We need this for the growing number of systems - that assume that USB is the primary keyboard. Current status - appears to be that the kbdmux driver breaks very easily. We need - this working well enough where it can be enabled by default, and - all attached keyboards Just Work. &a.emax; commit kbdmux and - rc.d/syscons patches in HEAD and RELENG_6. It is not yet enabled - by default. See kbdmux(4) and contact &a.emax; if you have - problems.
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Increasing + the kern.maxswzone tunable would be a workaround this, but a patch + from alc@ is needed to allow this variable to be increased. + + + + + Unmount pending error + Suleiman Souhlal + + When unmounting filesystems Kris Kennaway reports seeing this + warning: /c: unmount pending error: blocks -68512 files 0. + This dates back at least to 5.3. It might be associated with + filesystem corruption reported by many users in which the 'used' + space on a filesystem is negative; fsck -f is needed to correct + this. + + + + + swap_pager warnings + Don Lewis? + + When swapfiles are in use, there are often warnings printed: + swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: bufobj: 0, blkno: 889347, + size: 8192. There is also the possibility of deadlock. + + + + + umount -f panics + Jeff Roberson, Suleiman Souhlal + + Panics from race conditions. A patch from Jeff Roberson seems to + fix some of them. + + + + + UFS deadlocks on amd64 + Tor Egge + + Seen by Kris Kennaway. + + + + + UFS deadlocks + + Seen by Peter Jeremy. + + + + + amd64 panics in ipv6 with date(1) + Hajimu UMEMOTO + + amd64 panics in ipv6 when the date is changed using date(1) or + ntpdate(1). This may be a MI issue. + + + + + sparc64 instability. + Marius Strobl + + sparc64 instability when accessing /dev/mem. Contact marius@ or + kris@ for debugging information. + + + + + dhclient causes ipv6 panics. + Doug Barton + + dougb@ has more details about this. + + + + + sparc64 frequent hangs + unknown + + No DDB break possible, so impossible to diagnose. + + + + + Serious sparc64 IPv6 panic + George V. Neville-Neil + + Triggered by just ping6'ing the box. It may even be a MI issue, + the reporter of this bug only uses IPv6 with sparc64. This problem + seems to be triggered even when debug.mpsafenet=0. + + + + + SMP kernels for install + + From the ideas + page. Right now we only install a UP kernel, for + performance reasons. We should be able to package both a UP and + SMP kernel into the release bits, and have sysinstall install + both. It should also select the correct one for the target system + and make that the default on boot. The easiest way to do this + wouldbe to have sysinstall boot an SMP kernel and then look at the + hw.ncpu sysctl. The only problem is being able to have sysinstall + fall back to booting a UP kernel for itself if the SMP one fails. + This can probably be 'faked' by setting one of the SMP-disabling + variables in the loader. But in any case, the point is to make + the process Just Work for the user, without the user needing to + know arcane loader/sysctl knobs. SMP laptops are here, and we + should be ready to support SMP out-of-the-box. + + + + + Improve kbdmux + Maksim Yevmenkin + + From the ideas + page. We need this for the growing number of systems + that assume that USB is the primary keyboard. Current status + appears to be that the kbdmux driver breaks very easily. We need + this working well enough where it can be enabled by default, and + all attached keyboards Just Work. + + + + + swap panic on sparc64 + Kris Kennaway has panic info + + Kris reports configuring a 74GB swap-backed md on sparc64 that + caused a panic after a week or two of load (during which time swap + was slowly filling as more of the md was dirtied). + + + + + Updated hal and ath drivers + Sam Leffler + + + + Fix ntpdate(1) bogus output on amd64. + Ollivier Robert + + + + Improve performance + + What seem to be 4BSD scheduler bugs in 6.0 that cause performance + to be anomalously low in certain situations. davidxu@ has + expressed some interest in this problem. + + + + + /dev/kmem panic + Stephan Uphoff + + Kris has noticed panics on SMP machines when there was ABI + breakage of libkvm and world was not rebuilt and utilities like + fstat were used. This suggests panics can be caused by incorrect + accesses to /dev/kmem. Stephan Uphoff committed a fix for i386. + + + + + KLDs on sparc64 + + On sparc64 machines with more than 4Gb memory KLDs are not usable + and will panic the system. The problem is reportedly with how the + KLDs are compiled, it only works if the code ends up below 4G. + + + + + Max RAM on sparc64 + + Maximum RAM on sparc64 appears to be limited to 16Gb. + + + + + make -jN + + Doing 'make -jN', then suspending/resuming it may result in make + reporting it lost child process(es). + + + + + OpenBSM + Robert Watson + + The OpenBSM has been MFC'ed to RELENG_6 and needs some testing. + + + + + Update sysinstall disk labeling + Craig Rodrigues + + Sysinstall could use the same fixes recently made to fdisk so it + plays nice with GEOM and disk labeling. This does not cause + problems during install because nothing on the disk is mounted + when its label is being manipulated but it can cause problems if + sysinstall gets used on a live system to adjust labels on existing + disks which sys-admins tend to do. + + + + + Quota deadlocks + Jeff Roberson + + Quota support is not locked properly and causes deadlocks. A + patch from Jeff Roberson seems to fix some of them. + + + + + sort(1) does not work with some locales + + sort(1) can cause a coredump with some locales. See also + gnu/93629. + + + + + exec_map depletion + Stephan Uphoff + + The exec_map is regularly running out of space on machines running + 7.0. Stephan Uphoff has a proposed patch and it seems to fix this + problem. + + + + + NFS data corruption between two 7.0 machines + Mohan Srinivasan + + Running fsx between a 7.0 NFS client and server detects data + corruption. This problem can also be reproduced by using 6.1 NFS + server. + + + + + Panic in fxp driver + Andre Oppermann + + See + http://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/log/cons186.html. + + + + + Deadlock in vn_start_write() consumers + Tor Egge + + + + panic in bpf + Sam Leffler + + Killing tcpdump (e.g. with ^C) can cause panics in bpf. + + + + + devfs locking problem + Jeff Roberson + + It is trivial to deadlock it on an SMP system, and there are other + panics with device removal. + + + + + pty leak + Olivier Houchard + + Since 6.x has a hard-coded limit, once all ptys are leaked things + like ssh and login no longer work. This seems to be related to + devfs. + + + + + cpu_ipi_selected() can cause a trap on sparc64 + Kip Macy + + On sparc64, cpu_ipi_selected() can cause a trap (which is bad + since it appears in the trap code path). + + + + + rpc.lockd interoperability problems + Jun Kuriyama + + After + this commit rpc.lockd seems to have interoperability + problems. This may be the cause of the many "rpc.lockd no longer + interoperates" bug reports seen on -stable. + + + + + dup(2) regression on 6.x + Dag-Erling Smorgrav + + Simple "close(0); dup(fd)" does not return descriptor "0" in some + cases. This problem has been reported in kern/87208, and there is + a proposed patch in the PR, too. + + + + + ifconfig regression on 6.x + Yar Tikhiy + + ifconfig can not handle vlan and mtu parameters at the same time + after rev.1.7.2.3 of sbin/ifconfig/ifvlan.c commit. For more + information and a proposed patch, see bin/94028. + + + + + "calcru: runtime went backwards" problem for threaded + program + + stress2 thr1 test can trigger "calcru: runtime went backwards" + problem and there are also many similar reports on -stable and + -current. Poul-Henning Kamp committed a possible fix + (src/sys/kern/kern_tc.c rev.1.169) to update the calibration code + to be more precise on 2 March. + + + + + Swapping on 6.0 is slower than on 4.x + + Performance on swap handling is much slower than 4.x and this can + make a system essentially unusable when moderate paging activity + is going on. + + + diff -ruN 6.1R/todo.xsl 6.1R.new/todo.xsl --- 6.1R/todo.xsl Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 +++ 6.1R.new/todo.xsl Mon Mar 13 20:39:50 2006 @@ -0,0 +1,221 @@ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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--- todo.diff ends here --- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-www->danger Responsible-Changed-By: danger Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Aug 20 21:03:34 UTC 2006 Responsible-Changed-Why: This is mine! Well, it would be nice to see this commited, but last time I was trying to push this in, it hasn't passed over people on doc@ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94423 From: "Murray Stokely" To: bug-followup@freebsd.org, danger@rulez.sk Cc: Subject: Re: www/94423: [patch] XML'ified release todo list Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:13:52 -0800 Is this functionality desired by the release engineers? I think the last several years have demonstrated that we need to lower the barrier to making updates to these kinds of release engineering status pages, and XML is not low enough of a barrier. I think this kind of information should be maintained by the release engineers in a wiki or something, but would leave that up to Ken, et al. We should close this PR if the release engineers are not interested in this functionality. State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: danger State-Changed-When: Mon Jul 26 11:40:46 UTC 2010 State-Changed-Why: Suspend. Unfortunately, it seems like there's no interest for this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=94423 >Unformatted: